Curse

Redvex · Jan 22, 2010, 02:17 PM // 14:17

From update note.

In GvG especially, Glass Arrows Rangers and other bow spike builds are a little too effective. We are exploring a few different approaches to addressing this but we need to perform additional playtests before settling on a specific set of changes. It is likely that a number of bow attack skills, especially those with fast activation times will be altered in some way.

I was hoping in some buff to ranger or at least to leave them untouched.
Now i very worried

Only pvp or also pve?

Shadowhaze · Jan 22, 2010, 02:45 PM // 14:45

I hope it is only pvp. But the notes didn't say pvp only (some had PVP after them, others did not), so who knows... *sigh*

Anti Welfare · Jan 22, 2010, 02:47 PM // 14:47

the way i read it pvp only. i know in other posts i've looked at they've said they were specifically looking at some of the gvg team builds. i see no reason for them to change anything pve related.

Breakfast Mc Rit · Jan 22, 2010, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Where are these notes?

Edit: I need to lrn2read.

HellScreamS · Jan 22, 2010, 03:06 PM // 15:06

I'll probably be playing Guild Wars 2 by the time the update happens, so I'm not worried

Regulus X · Jan 22, 2010, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Here we go! Another step in the kill-game direction.

Shadowhaze · Jan 22, 2010, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit

Where are these notes?

Regina posted them here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...t10423001.html

Shadowspawn X · Jan 22, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Whenever ranger does a little damage its a big problem. Rangers have been nerfed to hell and back already and at this point in the game why expect anything different. But if we all play our ranger like a mesmer (degen + interrupt only) anet is happy. I mean we can't have a bow actually be a threat now can we?

FoxBat · Jan 22, 2010, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Does anyone (besides me) actually play the 1s turret builds anyway? That's all they are looking at, all you BHA / Barrage / triple shot packers are basically unaffected.

Redvex · Jan 22, 2010, 03:46 PM // 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Does anyone (besides me) actually play the 1s turret builds anyway? That's all they are looking at, all you BHA / Barrage / triple shot packers are basically unaffected.

Nerf Glass Arrows = nerf triple shot.
BHA? Who use bha when with technobabble you can have an aoE daze?
Barrage? Ritualist and Critical Sin do it better.

Oh i forgot....Ebon Dust Aura now don't work with ranged attack like bow and spear.

That's all

FoxBat · Jan 22, 2010, 04:14 PM // 16:14

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Originally Posted by Redvex

Nerf Glass Arrows = nerf triple shot.
BHA? Who use bha when with technobabble you can have an aoE daze?

Who plays monks when you have ER infusers? (alot of people apparently...)

BHA/Barrage are still the most popular ranger elites, much like healer's boon and WoH are still the most popular healers.

Anyways they probably aren't touching glass arrows. Before glass arrows it was read the wind turrets, after it will be expert's focus. The problem has always been the 1s attack skills, if these are addressed the preps won't matter. They didn't describe actually changing glass arrows itself so it sounds like someone at Anet got the message.

Artisan Archer · Jan 22, 2010, 05:11 PM // 17:11

This was a needed pvp-update, but it proberly won't affect pve.

MasterSasori · Jan 22, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57

There is hardly anything to nerf in PvE for rangers. It's just everything else that needs a nerf.

I think it is no but seeing how Anet is not particularly reliable, I'm going to say its still up in the air.

Shayne Hawke · Jan 22, 2010, 06:17 PM // 18:17

lol, i dunno, wats a skill split?

It wasn't my impression that Glass Arrows was really that strong or popular for PvE play. I don't know what you're getting all concerned about without actually being told anything.

Fay Vert · Jan 22, 2010, 10:36 PM // 22:36

So many mediochre skills left on rangers to nerf, maybe they should just take bows out of the game altogether, I spend most of my time with another profession's weapon anyhow, even if playing with 8 ranger skills!

Xsiriss · Jan 22, 2010, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Rangers used to be solid. The only imba thing is some gimmicky spikes. That's it and all there ever was. Thank you dart bord nerfing,resulting in an epic low after a small high for the ranger.

reaper with no name · Jan 23, 2010, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Rangers play very differently in PvP than in PvE. In PvP they're interrupters, spikers, and condition spreaders. In PvE they're Barragers and Dazers. Barrage has little use in PvP, so I don't see it getting nerfed, and I've never heard anyone accusing BHA of being overpowered in PvP either. And even if BHA was nerfed for PvE, it's only really useful in a few circumstances anyway.

Fay Vert · Jan 24, 2010, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by reaper with no name

And even if BHA was nerfed for PvE

Why would anyone ever consider nerfing one of the worst PvE skills ever? Only a total noob thinks that BHA has any use in PvE except in some extreme boss scenarios, even then there are way better ways than that junk skill.

Targren · Jan 24, 2010, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Does anyone (besides me) actually play the 1s turret builds anyway? That's all they are looking at, all you BHA / Barrage / triple shot packers are basically unaffected.

*raises hand*

Though I trade out glass arrows for Expert Focus + Prep Shot. It's worked awesomely through the whole game.

I honestly hope the changes are PvP only. I'm getting a bit sick of the good builds being nerfed with nothing being buffed to take its place.

Tenebrae · Jan 24, 2010, 11:48 AM // 11:48

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Originally Posted by Targren

I honestly hope the changes are PvP only. I'm getting a bit sick of the good builds being nerfed with nothing being buffed to take its place.

Bingo. Still dont get why so much complain of Rangers spike when they need like half a bar to do it or more ? and still they are going to be behind W , D and A.